Comments for CPRE President's view

Comment on A word of thanks from Bill by Lloyd Richards

Lloyd Richards — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:53:23 +0000

What about illegal outdoor advertisement? Any sign whether an advert trailer, rigid placard, fabric banner or permanent sign is ‘flyposting’ if it is there without planning consent and without the landowners consent. These criteria can be breached in nearly every sign seen at the road side to teh rate of several hundred in an hours walk around most towns or teh most cursory drive around any roads.
This gets talked about from time to time but action is scarce and excuses are legendary (I have the first hand evidence). I deem it to be the single most unenforced UK statute carrying risk of a criminal record. I.e. a level 4 fine at the magistrates court of maximum £2,500 PER SIGN and £250 PER DAY. I knwo one orgainsation that puts a hundred sign in one village and several thousand throughout Britain with utter immunity it seems.

Comment on South Downs National Park by J.R.Bell

J.R.Bell — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:49:15 +0000

Presumably areas of A.O.N.B. left out of the new National Park will simply remain A.O.N.B. and therefore as fully protected as they now are - or have I missed something?

Comment on A word of thanks from Bill by julie brady

julie brady — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:27:56 +0000

At last! An organised assault on the disgraceful amounts of litter. I have been disgusted by the increase in recent years, spoiling our beautiful countryside. I am already a member of CPRE and would be interested in helping clean up locally,
Julie Brady

Comment on Clean up Britain: Bill Bryson and the war on litter by Alan Lunt

Alan Lunt — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:59:02 +0000

Just read your message after seeing your letter to the Nuneaton observer. The essence of common sense. I helped to found a local group ‘Friends of Whittleford Park’, a park surrounded by housing, too many of whose occupants use the park as a convenient tip. I also have belonged for some years to the Parks & Countryside Volunteers group of Nuneaton & Bedworth Borough Council - working every Thursday on all the green spaces and tracks in the area. So I know from first hand experience just how common littering & fly tipping are in all these places. As you say, it is pretty much the norm, and I could not agree more that the reason for it is the almost total absence of offenders being prosecuted.
But alas, we have tried in vain to make the local Council and the Police see the need for pro-active action - covert surveillance etc.
We get the same response every time - evasive action - haven’t got the resources and so on. They have got better at arranging to pick up refuse. But it keeps coming back. Nabbing a few culprits would, I agree, get more dramatic results. Alan Lunt

Comment on A word of thanks from Bill by Heather Woolley

Heather Woolley — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:44:38 +0000

Dear Bill,
I read your articles in the Dorset evening Echo and feel very angry sometimes, about the issue of litter in this country.Not just the litter but the whole arrogant and selfish attitude from your average Brit.Here at Portland Bill(no pun,honest)we live in one of the most fabulous places in the World, a joy and a privilege to be here.What do we have a lot of!!Yes litter,In the guise of disposable nappies and plastic,in all shapes and forms.People pick up the dog poo and then hang it off a tree….duhh, whats that all about?I would also like to ask you to take a look at the proposed Quarrying of Portland Coastal Strip.the web site is very good and the moral issues go further than litter.they are proposing to vandalize a whole stretch of coast towards Portland Bill.there is an abundance of wildlife here and visiting migratory birds.Can you help?visit the website!!Save the Portland Coastal Strip.
http://www.saveportlandcoastalstrip.org.uk/
Thanks,
Heather Woolley

Comment on A word of thanks from Bill by Mrs Bridget Counsell

Mrs Bridget Counsell — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:28:45 +0000

I used to live in kent, in a village called Staplehurst, and to fill my time and to make the countryside a better and safer place for wildlife,I began to litter pick on a lane between my village and a village called headcorn.. I did it in my own time, used my own bags and gloves and of course my own car.. I used to take the filled bags and car parts, old TV’s, tyres, bathroom basin! car batteries, paint cans etc to Maidstone waste disposal site at Tovil.. I was on my third trip asked where I was getting the waste from, and when I told them it was from the lane and hedgerows, I was told that it was classed as “industrial” waste, and if I didn’t work for the council I would need a permit to dispose of it there.. I was then told that I would have to apply to KCC in order to obtain them.
The following day I applied, and was promptly refused.. I was basically told by the lady that I was not eligible, and that they would not accept me. I was undeterred and took my collections to Ashford, and Sandwich sites, whilst I decided what to do.. I then decided that this was completely unreasonable on their part.. I was not asking for anything except a place to dispose of my pickings, so I contacted “The Kent Messenger” paper, and the Journalist I spoke to was really supportive and thought the whole attitude of KCC was terrible, so she spoke to their press office, and within a really short space of time, the lady I had originally spoken to had to call me back to say that they had had a change of heart and how many permits would I like!, this though was not the end of the saga, she still took 3 weeks to send me 5.. and each time I went to the Tip, it was a major inconvenience for the workers, as they had to make a note of my registration number, and fill in the permit.. the workers would also not help me with any bulky items. If it hadn’t been for the lady at the paper helping me, I would have not been able to continue..and that would have been dreadful.
I do have to say now that I am really disheartened by the amount of litter that has reaccumalated in “my lane” since I left for shropshire 16 months ago. It really looks like it had never been “picked”.
I have to say I was really glad to see your campaign, and also to see you on BBC South East news, litter picking in Wye, I’m sure Ashford Council were more accommodating than Maidstone.
I still litter pick but not to the level that I did in Kent.. I do though do all the recycling for the place that I work in, and have reduced their domestic waste by 2/3rds since February.
With kind regards
Mrs Bridget Counsell

Comment on A word of thanks from Bill by Ken Baker

Ken Baker — Wed, 28 May 2008 13:41:07 +0000

Dear Bill, Thank you for this initiative, I was beginning to think that my personal litter picking crusade around our local village was the result of a grumpy old man entering his “salad day’s”, rather than from my upbringing, where even on one of the country’s worst housing estates
we were taught to respect others.

Not to right off the young, a little while ago my teenage son informed me that he stopped his car and asked a rather embarrassed friend to go back and collect the litter the lad had just thrown out the window.
If we can connect with this age group through normal communication , by advertising in teenage magazines and through social networking sites,I’m sure your campaign will help tremendously to address the the problem which blights Blighty!

Comment on A word of thanks from Bill by The Plumber Southampton

The Plumber Southampton — Tue, 27 May 2008 08:35:27 +0000

Dear Sir,
Being a van driver my self I take it as an insult that we All litter as we please, may I suggest this is not the way forward, please advise where to send photo’s of litter louts in action.

Comment on A word of thanks from Bill by Gareth Grogan

Gareth Grogan — Tue, 27 May 2008 08:30:30 +0000

Dear Sir,
With reference to Mr Brysons appearance on television this weekend I wish to comment that his remark on “White Van Man” being responsible for dropping litter would be comparable to me stating that all authors are egostistical and narssistic.

Comment on A word of thanks from Bill by John Lane

John Lane — Sun, 25 May 2008 09:43:17 +0000

Dear Bill Bryson,

Well done for taking the initiative on litter!

I work in a Comprehensive School in a large town. Litter is a major problem and it is not getting any better. Although it is unfair to say that all the children drop litter, a great many do - judging by the amount of new rubbish that appears every single day. The school has given up trying to stop the children littering and now they just employ a man to go round all day picking it up! This defeatist policy probably makes the situation worse, because many of those who normally would not drop litter now consider it acceptable.
Various attempts to get the children to pick up their own litter have failed. Apparently, it is “demeaning” to expect them to do it - yes, even as a punishment for those in detention.
(But wait a minute… what about the man employed to do it? Is it not then demeaning for him too?)
Today’s children are tomorrow’s citizens. They must be taught dropping litter is unacceptable behaviour. It must be part of their wider education.
I recently visited another school in the same town. There was NO LITTER to be seen. None. So it can be done. But the children at this school were different. They held the door open for you and I did not hear them swearing in the corridors. Their ties were not at “half-mast”, their shirts were not hanging out and they appeared proud to wear their uniform. Yes, you’ve guessed, it was indeed a grammar school.

All this tells me that dropping litter is just part of a wider problem in today’s society. But education is the key. On the Andrew Marr program this morning you suggested drivers should be awarded three points for dropping litter. Come on Bill, get real! It has not worked with mobile phones. I believe “White Van Man”, whoever he is, might be slightly less inclined to toss his Macdonalds wrapper into my front garden if he’d had a better (and probably more disciplined) education.